ChnLove.com - Dating Site Review

Like I posted a couple of months, ago, apologies for sounding harsh but it's incredible the number of Putz-es on the internet (see my post back in November @Smithson). Chnlove apparently borrows a long-standing model. Some review sites call it "multi-level" scamming, others have noted it's a knock-off of other scam 'date' sites that have been out there for a number of years. Essentially, it is convenient for the company to keep blaming its "agencies" when they are invariably exposed by clients. Ask yourself: if the company is blameless, does it really matter when you’re paying the mastermind company, directly? If you don't know what a shell game is, do a search on the internet.

In any event, read what I originally posted. If you've never been to China, research and keep researching until it sticks in your brain. Loneliness is NOT an excuse to be stupid.

I don't know what all the fuss is about. I only talked to one lady that HAS given me her e-mail and all she talks about is how her family are having it rough right now. She has NEVER asked me about money or visas. True, there are many fakes out there. But you have to go through the fakes to find the real deal. Hell, I even talked to one that had a damn visa she paid for herself. If you like the site, good for you, and if you don't move on with your life.

The "translator" comment (@tell you the truth) is simply not true. Well, not universally true, but Chn Love is a conglomeration of agencies, some of which may be scamming men. I wrote to a lady, met her, and apart from the first reply, she did indeed write all the letters. She is intelligent, beautiful but does not speak English. We had a great time, but I decided she was not the one for me. She has three friends who were also on this site, all formed relationships with western men and eventually met them, one is in the process of fiancé visa etc, the other two didn't work out, one mutual, and the other the lady was not that impressed.

These sites have declining popularity in China, because of the lack of suitable men ..... I had a look with her one night, and it was a joke. Talk about the scum of western manhood. Clearly, arrogant Western men think for some reason that Chinese women will take anything. If you are 55, 30kgs overweight, and write to a 25 year old hottie, you are going to get scammed. Not by the woman, but by the translator. Lady reads the letter and profile, says "no thanks" to the translator, who then continues on his merry way with the sucker.

My guess is that there is some sort of latent racism going on in these guys, ........no fellas, if you can’t snag anything in your home-town, don't expect some Chinese hottie to lap it up. As far as I can tell, the successful relationships from this site happen when the man does have realistic expectations, and respect for the women he is dealing with. I also suspect that most of the negative comments and hard luck stories come from the type of client described above. Sorry guys, but the truth hurts us all, and it is about time plenty of you out there faced it.

I am a translator from the site in China. I can tell you the truth. The letter from the girl to you, are written by the translator. I have work there for some days, but when I know it is a trick I left. When you send letter to the Chinese girl, the translator reply them, and they can get the money from your letter. You can see, you cannot write to them girls mail, or sometimes the translator sign up the mail for the girl and they tell you the mail is from the girl, but the girl never sent the mail.

If you say you would direct communicate with the girl, the letter from the translator would tell you: no time, no cable, no computer, cannot understand the English. If you would not write to the girl, from the fourth day, the next letter would be coming. The letter would tell you why do you not write to her. Do you know, it is a trick? It is just for your money. Do not waste money on the website.

If you have some question, you can write to me, no fee, my mail is shaodazhangjia@qq.com.

I've been a member 6 months. Got loads of letters. Unbelievable. All walks of life, doctors, accountants, acupuncturists, upper mgmt executives. The list seems endless. But wouldn’t it? For the most part the ladies seem to want serious relationships and marriage. But emails from them seem short, not really answering questions. So I may be fooled again. Seems about half of you all think we are getting screwed by either Chnlove or one of the agencies working with them. I aint got the money or the emotion to waste on any money hungry, fibbing. If only half of your bad luck or problems with Chn are really scams, well wouldn’t it be a fair assumption, that the longer you communicate via Chnlove, the more chance of getting, you know what. Cause if it aint Chnlove itself, evidently they can't control their individual agencies or don’t really care. Either way it aint looking very good for us men.

Why isn’t Chnlove speaking out on this? Somebody badmouth me, well I usually address the rumor or at least try to clear up misunderstandings. Isn’t that kind of basic communication? Communication is fairly high on Chn's list aint it? Is there a better business bureau in China? I don’t know, he he he...(sorry about that he he bit) Where can we each send 25 bucks to check this? For letters of which half are "ha ha he he" translations? Shoot I got fifty. Small price for good info. Man these China girls, the one I communicate with (spending money on) is hot! But there seems to be some questions here. Hey don’t tell OK? But I have been slicked and kicked by a dame sitting next to me, let alone da other side a de freaking world. IT AINT ABOVE EM.

I know there's somebody reading this that has a buddy in some bar somewhere that knows what to do. Cause my fellow friends, we deserve some facts on this AT LEAST! I’m new at this. Would like suggestions on getting facts.

@Smithson
I have been communicating for 3 month with ladies on chn. Right now I am at an airport in Syracuse NY on my way to visit a lady I’ve been talking to. So I guess I’ll follow up on here to let you know what happens when I meet my love. The flight was cancelled due to the weather in JFK airport area. So now I wait till the next departure. I’m on standby for 5pm if no room I have a flight going out on the next day at 5pm. Stay tuned I hope it works out.

As someone who travels to Asia and other countries regularly, I am constantly amazed at the stupidity on the internet. Chnlove and scam sites like it.

For those posters who continue to broadcast how 'lucky' they are to receive 'real' messages and even found their 'true love', it would be nice if they also provided some context on the reality of things.

China's urban population has seen an incredible modernization in only a few years: if you wander the streets, you will find the presence of international chains like Starbucks, McD's, etc. Many females (esp. younger demographics) work in offices (mostly multi-national / foreign invested), are functionally bilingual in English or have superior language skills than these WWW dolts are willing to tell you (or maybe they just haven't been to China long enough).

Yes, on Scam Sites like CHNLOVE, one may find a select group of mainly OLDER, divorced or widowed ladies - incidentally, usually with those infamous studio photos - so if you want a Caregiver or Housekeeper, you can 'buy' yourself one at good expense. Then give yourself a pat on the back for: a) contributing to the exploitation of not only yourself, but someone in dire situations (who needless to say is likely be exploited in China) and b) for being such a PUTZ.

If you want to meet a lady for "free" (gosh, but isn't that the way grand-pappy and most 'normal' guys did it on the 'old days'??) - just use your computer and your connection to the internet. What do you think it's for? To join CHNLOVE which has limited utility and provides nothing more than a means for a 3rd party to exploit you?

These rouges online who keep touting how 'great' it was that they found “The One” in China should spend their time enjoying their supposed happiness. If it were so wonderful.

That, and playing checkers, while they find a real job in life.

Sorry to be so blunt, but I can't believe how stupid people can be. For every so-called 'positive' attribute for scam sites like this one, you will find 100 more, namely unnecessary extortion for something you can do for free with modest effort by using your brain and legitimate resources on the internet. Fortunately, many guys have indeed figured it out. Don't pay for something that you don't need.

@Harry Blodgett
Harry, I hope you did not go to China and get married. If you get married in China it will take 2 years for an I-130 Petition for Alien Relative. A fiancé visa I-129 takes a year. I know. I have applied for both. My wife and I got married in China and it cancelled our I-129 fiancé visa which was ready after 12 months. We had to start all over again. It has taken almost 2 years for the I-130 for a wife. I started applying for the first fiancé visa on 11-24-06. It has been 3 years. The final Guangzhou Consulate appointment for the wife visa should be on November 30th. All visas go through Guangzhou so I hear.

As for Chnlove, I have received hundreds of admirer letters. Some were from hot chicks, a third of my age, but their preferred choices from their profile did not match me at all. I had one lady I was going to send a free letter to. I checked her profile and waited to write her until the next day. Before I could send her a free hello note, I received an admirer letter from her. They must monitor who we are surveying. Once she sent the admirer letter, I could not send any free letters to her. Coincidence???? hahahahahahahaha.

I found my wife on another website. She wanted to e-mail me directly immediately and even though she did not have a computer, she found a friend with a computer so we could do the Yahoo Messenger voice video. She did not want to wait for translated letters. She found a friend who speaks English to translate her e mails for her. Many people speak English in China. It is taught in the schools and universities now. Just about everybody has a cell phone too. My wife was real. I have been to China 9 times over the 3 years. My Mandarin is getting better each time.

Good luck and happiness to you.

John

Funny thing about the truth to a lot of people is too much to bear so let's seek out a scapegoat make us feel better.

@jason
The world is fraught with people trying to get you to part with your hard earned money through deception. I've personally met four women from Chnlove and they are in fact real. Like some of the other posters stated buyer beware. Some of these desperate guys believe that these hot young girls are searching for an old, old looking, ugly,fat westerner so they jump in hook line and sinker in this thing. I've perused the Chnlove men's companion site and it ain't pretty. 1 out of a hundred guys might actually be good looking and not fall into the above categories. Part of the blame should be because the men have unreal expectations. Would this girl really find me attractive? My Chnlove relationships didn't work out but that was simply incompatibility issues. It's real yet you must proceed with caution. You cannot be victimized unless you allow it. The girl is in love with you and you're no prize package. Commonsense, would a girl like this back home see me this way? Ultimately I've found my love in China on my own yet still have faith in Chnlove that love can be found there. China Shark Mike

@Fred
It's a scammed website, young girls just cooperate with those agencies 'network' in China, when each time male member send messages and receive messages the girls could get commission. I've been to the agency in Nanning province Guang Xi China, the agency is very mysterious and they refused to answer any questions. The agency is totally different as the picture where on the web site.

Dale :

I found this site to be not honest too. The letters I receive from the ladies are very short and letters from different ladies are all about the same. Seems they are trying to get us to write more and pay more to have them translated. I have asked for the original letters from the ladies so I can translate myself and they do not respond. I do not trust them at all! Save your money!

Well not sure about fake or not. I signed up in Sept 09 and since then I have gotten maybe 15-20 admirers, not a land fall like most are saying. I make good money and stated that on the profile, so I don’t think it can be all that fake. I have been on other sites where I got 45 admirers an hour every day. That I knew was a fake. But I have now been talking to one woman who has sent me her home address in which I found to be her real address in china, not some fake set up address by the agency. I do skip trace work for a living that is how I know it is real and also she gave me her real email address also she does not write me much using the email but she has sent me pictures of her in real life at work with family and friends and most have the date on them. So I know she is real. We are now making plans to meet in a few months in china to get to know each other in person. So I have been one of the lucky ones I guess I have read a lot of these forums and I hear a lot of things but it is life to have bad experience. But you do not blame life for it, you move on to the next experience and hope for the better. If this does not work out for me then I know it was not chnlove’s fault. They have done what they promise to do so far.

Has anybody using Chnlove had any contact with a lady posted on the Chnlove site, from Chongquing, named Fei He who is 26 years old? I would greatly appreciate any comments from anyone who has, as I am beginning to be suspicious that I am receiving replies to my letters to her from translators and not from her. I think shared information of this nature would help users of the Chnlove site to determine whether or not they are being scammed by the agency's use of some of the young, attractive women posted on its site. Please get back to me if you have any info about this - before I get a broken heart!!

I have mixed feelings about Chnlove.com. I have been a member for several months and have received many letters from young and middle aged divorced women with children. Most of the letters have come through an agency in Changsha, Hunan Province. As the other commentors have stated, the photos in the profiles are lovely, but the women are heavily made-up and the pictures are professionally touched up. I have also experienced similar wording in the letters I have received. When I respond, I often receive a response in less than a day which seems to me to be logistically impossible assuming that the women are working, my letters have to be translated into Chinese, a response written and translated into English. I have had difficulty getting the women to email me directly, even after I explain that I can translate them. There are similar excuses for this which don't really make sense. All of this raises suspicions in my mind which I have shared with Chn.love.

I found one woman who was happy to communicate with me directly. We have been emailing each other for a while and have exchanged current (undoctored) photos. She explained to me that her on-line photos were recent, but she was heavily made-up for the photo shoot. She seem quite legitimate and sincere to me. Perhaps she is an anomaly.

All of this suggests to me that Chn.love is a mixed bag - there are some real possibilities but also some probable scams which may be generated by local agencies to milk fees. My suggestion to users is to give it a try but be cautious and discriminating. If you think you are being scammed, move on until you find someone who appears to be genuine. You may eventually find the real thing.

Chinlove.com is full of make-over women trying to lure Americans to let them come over to America. Translators are the ones talking to the guys not the women. They could barely talk English. The ones I met mostly say "hehehe". It scared me. Well, I'm better with one of my kind. Why would I bring somebody to America where I have to baby sit because she doesn't know anything but use chopsticks and cook noodles?

I do have a comment about ChnLove. The women who have kids are real. It's the girls who are single that are usually very attractive and it is very difficult to get them to correspond by regular email because they say they don't speak English well enough to communicate and they insist on using the translation service. So I went to the Chinese Kisses website and the first woman who responded to my free smile had an email address on it using a deceptive n/a/m/e a/t/ Y/a/h/o/o dot c/o/m so I contacted her on her email for free. She ended up being an intelligent woman with a 16 yr old daughter. After writing a number of emails to her over a few months she invited me to do the instant messenger and now we can turn on our cams and plug in our headsets and microphones and talk and see each other. We are really communicating now and it is all free with MSN Live so there is a way to connect. You just have to find the right woman. This woman is 44 yrs old but she looks like she is in her early 30's.

She is a very smart woman, divorced and speaks fairly good English. I think there is a possibility to actually meet and have a nice friendship with one of these women.

She can't wait to see me and insists on making me her Delicious dumplings when I visit.

This chick is kick ass and she will make a fantastic wife, she is beautiful and sexy so don't discount these women they really are over there in China looking to get the hell out and start living the American dream. This kind of woman will probably F*** your brains out too. So good luck, I'm really happy I met her, after spending months on ChnLove trying to convince a woman to correspond with me on her regular email.

I'm in a state of shock at these accusations about this site, It can't be. A part of me already had some doubts, common sense. But I now can't just walk away from this, especially after how many letters I got. Well there’s only one in particular that I care about, but... I just don't know man. Haha, no I refuse to believe these rumours until I experience them first hand. Money is immaterial towards true love. It’s my dream to find my own Asian princess. And I have never let petty things deter me from my goals, ever. In my experience each Asian Lady has their own unique personality and traits… It was the subtle things that make me believe that this is a legitimate site for finding love. They also didn't make it a secret that they were using translators and their photo's show them at well... their best, Haha. But you know, what girl doesn't want to look her best? Look, either you risk it or you don't. I will do what I always have, follow my heart, follow my dreams. Wish me luck, Haha.

P.S
True love is worth any risk.

Bill your log is timely. I am beginning to have real doubts about this system. The photos are a real concern to me. It’s so easy to fall in love with what looks like a very beautiful and desirable young lady but I am not sure the photos are real and really fear becoming devastated with disappointment if ever I get the chance to meet one. Thus far I have only been in contact with four and one lady I have actually committed my heart to completely and she knows it. But despite endless letters of affection from me and some from her in return she does not want me to visit her yet? The excuse being she needs even more information about my life and fidelity. Even the CIA in your great country would not want to ask me so many questions. I get the impression this is a ploy to get me to spend my entire bank account on e-mail communications. What do you think Bill? Do these ladies really exist? I am a sincere guy not too bad looking and really interested in marrying one of these Chinese beauties.

I have received about 500 admirer’s notes, and written to maybe 60, at least once. I have actually met 10, on two trips, and found two that I liked. Neither seems to have worked out, but they are real. The photos are "touched up", quite a lot, but some are pretty close to real.

Most ladies seemed ok, a few less so. $ Important to about half, so I tell them nothing about income. I think it can work, as long as you are careful. Some of the agencies charge huge (for China) fees that the ladies, of course, can't afford. You will need to deal with that, if it happens, but I think it would be negotiable.

Some of the ladies/agencies really press you to marry them after just a few days.

Some ladies are reserved, and some not at all. About half want to roll in the hay with you quick fast.